The latest news in Illinois politics
May 29, 2009 by DaveC
[url=http://theglitteringeye.com/?p=7089#comments] For anybody interested.[/url]
Some of these same guys are running the Federal government, besides Roland Burris.
[url=http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/dealergate-statistical-evidence-that.html]This is what Pay To Play politics looks like on a nationwide scale.[/url]
May 30, 2009, 03:19:27 dr ngo wrote:
Which "same guys"? No one is mentioned except Burris, Rob Blagovich, and an alderman, none of whom, AFAIK, is "running the Federal government" (besides Burris, as you note).
I'm willing to stipulate that there is corruption in state/local government in Illinois, as there is here in North Carolina (ex-Governor Easley's sleaze is still leaking out - but much milder, more traditional/gentlemanly, than up North!), as there is in any other state you choose to mention, whether local politics is dominated by Democrats or Republicans.
So what's your point?
May 31, 2009, 04:16:14 Turbulence wrote:
Wow, the car dealership thing represents a whole new level of stupid. I shouldn't be, but I am kind of shocked that DaveC doesn't understand the concept of a control variable or Bayes theorum. I'll give you a hint DaveC: telling us that the set of dealerships that were closed donate heavily to Republicans tells us nothing unless you can say what fraction of dealerships that are not closing donate to Republicans.
Did you know that only about 10% of the people who die in hospitals are black? That must mean that doctors are systematically killing off white people and saving black people! Obviously!
May 31, 2009, 09:10:23 DaveC wrote:
Here's another tidbit:
[quote]As head of the auto task force, Rattner is leading a team overseeing the restructuring of troubled automakers General Motors and Chrysler.
"Rattner's alleged involvement is that he helped one of his portfolio companies indirectly enrich the chief investment officer of the New York Common Retirement Fund, which is a very serious charge, although the SEC hasn't made the charge against him," said Dan Primack, a journalist for Thomson Reuters.
"I don't think it means anything unless there's charges," he added. "That said, I think there will be political pressure on him to step down. And it's never helped that Rattner wasn't an auto guy to start with." [/quote]
2 degrees removed from Moe Lane.
May 31, 2009, 09:30:22 Turbulence wrote:
Here's a professional explaining in small words why DaveC is an idiot. DaveC, I'm still wondering when you'll start complaining about the health industry's conspiracy to kill white people...90% is way too high to be just a coincidence.
May 31, 2009, 13:30:21 DaveC wrote:
I am very happy for you that you are a professional. Congratulations!
On the other subject as to whether other members of the Illinois Combine, for instance Ray LaHood, Valerie Jarrett, Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, Dick Durbin, etc., are in or in with the administration, that's pretty clearly the case. It's marginally preferable to run the whole USA similar to running Illinois than to running the country as if it were the California state government. My impression is that in CA there isn't clearly so much bald-faced corruption as accepted in IL, but all the expenses for politicians feeling morally righteous are taking a huge toll on normal people. In Illinois, it's more about paying Chicago, we all have to pay Chicago (city slogan = "Where's Mine), or else none of the other towns are going to get theirs.
Another issue is political treachery. David Axelrod pretended to want to represent Blair Hull for the Illinois Senate race. So he "vetted" Hull, got all the dirt on Hull's messy divorce, then had the details published in the Chicago newspapers after switching alleigance to the Obama campaign. That's totally dirty politics. Allowing same-day voting without previous registration, allowing foreign campaign contributions, and contributions from "Mickey Mouse", etc., are also crooked.
I actually understand how people don't get it. Probably all this stuff did not change the outcome of the Presidential election. But I do not think that the way politics in Illinois is done should be an example for the entire country.
May 31, 2009, 23:06:43 Turbulence wrote:
I meant to include this URL in my previous comment but failed: http://www.fivethirtyeight....
Jun 01, 2009, 03:16:59 DaveC wrote:
The larger point isn't whether the winners and losers are Democrats or Republicans. It is, [b]Since when is it the role of the executive branch of the federal government to determine who can and who cannot operate a car dealership?[/b]
Apparently, since about a month ago.
Much of corruption in local and state government is in the context of zoning ordinances, business set-asides, limited licensing, etc. All government rent seeking is bound eventually to be corrupt. Whether you think it is ok if it benefits your political interests in the short term, it is likely to be extremely damaging to us all in the long term.
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